[opendmarc-users] OpenDMARC useless with Postfix

Robert Schetterer rs at sys4.de
Fri Sep 19 05:16:00 PDT 2014


Am 19.09.2014 um 07:35 schrieb Murray S. Kucherawy:
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014, Robert Schetterer wrote:
>> Hi Murray, the biggest problem seems to be there is no good short
>> clear doku in how to setup opendmarc milter with postfix including
>> most made failures or known bugs. As reported the dmarc rfc is not
>> easy reading sometimes too.
> 
> I'm not at all familiar with postfix, since I grew up using sendmail.  I
> would be very happy to have improved postfix-specific documentation to
> include in the package that sn't already here.  Are you by any chance
> volunteering to write some or make a donation to support such work? 
> This is an open source package and not commercial code, as I'm sure you
> are aware.

Hi Murray,

I ll try do it, when i am not that busy as these days, i will speak to
some friends which allready did/helped at postfix docs

> 
> As for the DMARC draft being hard to follow, a rather detailed revision
> of it is in progress (no changes to the technology details, just a
> serious "haircut" on the language).  It should appear soon, before it's
> published as an RFC.  Again, if you have specific suggestions to make,
> I'm all ears.

Good to hear ,I have to reread / retest it all by myself ,perhaps i will
come up with other questions/suggestions then

> 
>> The opendmarc milter seems to need other milters as "helpers" to work
>> with postfix, this is "unusual", and it took me two days get this to
>> know, i would expect doing every software its own complete job.
> 
> You're right, this is one place the documentation isn't clear.  Please
> open a ticket on SourceForge if you would like to see this improved;
> that's how I remember these things once the release cycle starts.
> 
>> I have no criticts about software/standards working as designed. also
>> bugs may happen, but there seems still work to do in documentation.
> 
> I'm happy to take your specific suggestions.
> 
>> I guess the intention of the subject "useless" was in waking up the
>> list for support.
> 
> Respectfully, it didn't get the kind of attention from me that I think
> you really want.

i wasnt the one who posted "useless" at prime, but i was involved
testing dmarc-milter with this user , and we both got a little
frustrated after two days working on it, which was mostly related to
missing good doku by setup with postfix and confused by rfc.


  Calling the hard work of a small community "useless"
> is a lot more likely to make them angry than helpful.

I wanna thank you for your hard coding job at dmarc and dkim.
I didnt paid enough attention to dmarc in the past, it just came up on
another mail list , so i am getting involved, youre right ,there is
always a chance make things better with own work at open source.

> 
> -MSK



Best Regards
MfG Robert Schetterer

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