[opendmarc-dev] draft: patch to implement an override mechanism for MLMs

Steven M Jones smj+opendmarc at crash.com
Tue Oct 24 02:31:35 PDT 2017


On 10/24/2017 01:54, Marco Favero wrote:
>
> Hello,

Hi Marco, thanks for offering a suggestion.


> another drastic hint that could help to softly implement DMARC is to
> not enforce DMARC for mailing lists at all.
> In others words, automagically apply this patch for every client host
> that is sending a mail with a List-* header.

Okay, but what happens when spammers - some of whom monitor open source
projects like OpenDMARC - notice that they will be allowed through if
they just add one or more List-* headers to their messages? They'll add
those headers, and happily send through your filter.

If you make more checks for headers that common MLMs put into their
messages (Errors-To:, X-BeenThere:, X-Mailman-Version:) they'll add
those headers too.

This is why mailing list overrides are usually based on combinations of
whitelists, DKIM signatures, direct connection from the list servers, etc.

Apologies if I missed something, it's been a while since I read the
message you were quoting. If there's additional context that makes this
viable, please explain.

Thanks,
--S.



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